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Help! I suck at dating with Dean Vanessa and Jared and I Heart Radio podcast.

Hello and welcome to an all new episode of Help I Suck at Dating. My name is Jared. I'm joined by Vanessa. Vanessa, are you out there?

Vanessa is here, not in studio as you could tell. But Vanessa is here to talk to us. Dean is still traveling all around the world.

They think he's in France right now. I know. Yeah, I think he's a friend. I'm pretty jealous.

I hope he's having a wonderful time, which he is. But we have a very special guest in studio to kick things off this episode.

We have a relationship expert, a best-selling author of five acclaimed books. None other than Charles J. Orlando.

Thank you so much for joining us today. No, thank you for having me. Yes.

Yeah, oh wow. That was yes. We're excited. We got balloons. We got horns. We're ready to go.

So Charles, you were also on the lifetime, lifetime channel show seven year switch. That's it.

Season three. Season three. Can you tell us a little bit about that? Oh, absolutely. So seven year switch takes four couples that are in emotional turmoil and helps them reach a better place

through a radical concept called switch therapy. They work with us and they end up working us being the experts and they work with a

a like-minded person who's going through something similar. We keep a very close eye on them, put them on an accelerated path for two weeks, where we get them out of their bad patterns, remove all the stuff that's causing them to head down a path towards divorce or further

disconnection and get them to a better place, both individually and hopefully as a couple. So what is switch therapy? Like you said, you used switch therapy to fix this problem.

So we work with the with the couples as married couples and then we switch them for two weeks so that they can get a better see your smirking and I'll help that. No, no, I'm just

smoking because I have a mind of a 12 year old and you can imagine where I just went. So while everybody does, right? Yes. And I'm sure that when I see your sitting over there thinking the same things as well.

And it's easy to go down that path where it's like, oh, this is a show about hookups. Actually, no, this is a show about perspective. You can't learn new skills without a practice ground. So could these couples do something stupid on national television television. Yes, they could. That's not the goal though.

That's what I just want to say. Seven years, which is at the seven year of the air.

Well, it's a play on seven year itch the movie starring Marilyn Monroe talking about the challenges that people experience once the honeymoon has kind of faded away and now you're in what many people would consider the humdrum of day to day.

It's a challenge for most couples. It's a chance for everybody. Sure.

So do you find themselves that they get nominated by somebody or is a do you actively go out searching for couples?

Both there's an extensive casting process along with psychological evaluations and a real assessment of where they're at both individually and as a couple before they're admitted to the show.

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