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Reach out to better guests.

And speaking of great guests, I'm joined in the studio today by my good friend, Stephen

Woodford, who most of you will know from the YouTube channel Rationality Rules, a channel which discusses everything from religious claims in atheism to the flat earth,

to more recently the issue of transgender athletes and Brexit as well.

You've really been pushing the very out there.

I decided to have a good at politics.

Yeah, so thanks to joining me. It's good and happy here.

Well, thank you very much for having me. It's always a pleasure.

Yeah, it's going to be fun. So the reason that I've got here, Steven, is because of the fact that as followers of my YouTube channel will know,

we've had many previous discussions on the issue of morality. And we had a discussion together that was

quite long on my channel. And then you made a video about your views on morality. I made

a video called rationality rules debunked. And then you made a video called Cosmic Skeptic

debunked. And it's kind of left in the air. Like I criticize you, you criticize me and people have

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