Welcome to the WIRE Differently podcast where we chat all about how to best support exceptional children.

I'm your host, Holly Blanc Moses, the mom psychologist who gets it.

Penny Williams, thank you so much for joining me today.

Thanks for the invite. I always love our chats.

I know. I'm excited that you're here. So for all of you, I'm sure you probably know of Penny anyway,

but just in case, Penny Williams is a parenting coach who trains and mentors parents, raising

kids with ADHD and or autism.

She's the host of the Parenting ADHD podcast, the Happy Mama Retreat, which we'll talk

more about today.

And she also has online courses for parents to stop battling with their children as

well.

She can be found at parenting ADHD ADHD, and Autism.com.

Today, Penny and I are going to talk all about self-care tips for parents.

And not only parents, professionals can use them as well.

Because I think we can all agree that, exactly, we can all agree that self-care is something we don't usually talk about. Well,

maybe we talk about it, but we don't actually do it. Yeah. There's a big barrier, I think,

in our culture. You know, we're taught that moms have to give everything, every fiber of our

being, every moment of our time to our families. Definitely. So let's just dive right in. What is your

first self-care tip for us today? Number one is to make sure that you recognize that you matter to

because we do get that message from society that we should give everything of ourselves. And when we do that, we end up losing

ourselves. We lose who we were before kids. We lose that real focus on kind of making sure that we

feel fulfilled, that we feel like we have a purpose outside of our role in our families and just

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