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Oh shit, okay well, is he got kicked out of where you were living because of this?

Yeah, because they didn't let their cameras use these people.

I'm not going to bring any cameras.

It's worth, it's just me, there's no camera or anything.

I don't know if that makes sense.

On my first trip to Texas, I drove all over the area south of Houston

and saw the refineries as well as the giant gas stations that boast dozens of pumps.

I spent a ton of time with Tim Miller, his quote-unquote part-time girlfriend,

and the people who believed Clyde Hedrick was a serial killer.

Tim showed me where Ellen Beeson's body was found,

just off Galveston Island.

He took me to the old trail riding business,

the man that he first accused murdering his daughter.

And he introduced me to his fonding employees.

We even went through something akin to family therapy together.

But as I gear up for my second trip to Texas,

I know there's one person I need to speak to more than anyone else.

Clyde Hedrick.

That's the man that Tim is sure killed Laura

and the three other women found in the killing fields.

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