4. Cannibal Cop: What is your darkest fantasy?

Bad People

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4.4 • 1.1K Ratings

🗓️ 20 August 2020

⏱️ 38 minutes

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Summary

Police officer Gilberto Valle opens the door to find his house surrounded by the FBI. His wife had discovered gruesome stories of kidnap and cannibalism that Valle had written about more than 100 women in an online forum. Among the stories, the wife found a detailed description of how Valle wanted to cook her alive and eat her. Valle argued that he never intended to hurt anyone and that it was all fantasy. He was sentenced to life in prison but was later released. He became known as the “cannibal cop”. On this episode of Bad People, hosts Julia Shaw and Sofie Hagen discuss whether we should police people’s thoughts, and ask whether we should fear our own dark fantasies. What is the line between fiction and reality? Warning: This episode contains strong language and references to murder, cannibalism and sexual violence. Archive credits: This episode contains audio from Crime Watch Daily and HBO Documentary Films. CREDITS: Presenters: Dr. Julia Shaw and Sofie Hagen Producer: Louisa Field Assistant Producer: Simona Rata Music: Matt Chandler Series Editor: Rami Tzabar Commissioning Producer: Hannah Rose Commissioning Executive: Dylan Haskins Commissioning Editor: Jason Phipps Bad People is a BBC Audio Science Production for BBC Sounds #BadPeople_BBC

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0:45.0	Welcome to Bad People from BBC Sounds.
0:50.0	This is the podcast that explores humanity's dark side.
0:53.0	I'm criminal psychologist, Dr Julia Shaw.
0:56.0	And I'm Sophie Hagen. I'm a stand-up comedian.
0:59.0	In each episode, Julia tells us about a real criminal case and then we use criminal psychology to make sense of it all.
1:07.0	What makes people bad or what makes people do bad stuff?
1:13.0	Yeah, we're going to delve into the minds of individuals who do bad things, heinous things,
1:18.0	and we're going to learn something about ourselves in the process.
1:20.0	And we'll also be bringing in original footage and documents whenever we can.
1:25.0	Exactly. We'll explore this thing we call evil, not just by looking at other people's bad behavior but also our own.
1:33.0	Be aware that we're going to talk about many sense of issues throughout the series including
1:36.8	murder and sexual violence.
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