Hello everyone and welcome to police off the cuff, real crime stories.

I'm your host, retired NYPD Sergeant Bill Cannon, a 27-year veteran of the NYPD.

So folks, finally we got some breaking news yesterday in the case.

You see on the screen the missing Kansas moms, Jillian Kelly and Veronica Butler.

Perhaps not the news that we wanted, but it's been two weeks, you know,

and there were several indications that this was perhaps not going to end happily.

And there was much more to this.

And from day one, based on some of the factors involved,

I and many other investigators firmly believe that this was no random carjacking off the road and seeing where the car was left and some of the factors there.

And from the very beginning, right till now, the Oklahoma State Bureau of Investigation

has really given almost nothing in the way of information to the public.

I'm sure they've told the family of Jillian Kelly what was going on.

They couldn't tell the other side because they were suspects.

So, but some of the information that slowly started to come out was bad news.

It was very bad news.

And we're going to get into this case, but what we know now, of course, is they have on the screen.

These four people have been arrested in connection with this case.

Tiffany Michelle Adams, age 54.

She's the grandmother of the two children in custody who are having the custody battle

with Veronica Butler, one of the missing women.

Cole Earl Twombly, Cora Twombly, they're just identified on Facebook as friends of Tiffany, Michelle Adams.

I hope that that's friends on Facebook decide to go along on what is a murder, now charged with murder first degree.

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