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4/8: THE MAN ON THE WHITE HORSE: Travels with George: In Search of Washington and His Legacy, by Nathaniel Philbrick.

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🗓️ 19 June 2023

⏱️ 7 minutes

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4/8: THE MAN ON THE WHITE HORSE: Travels with George: In Search of Washington and His Legacy, by Nathaniel Philbrick.

https://www.amazon.com/Travels-George-Search-Washington-Legacy/dp/0525562176/ref=tmm_hrd_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=

When George Washington became president in 1789, the United States of America was still a loose and quarrelsome confederation and a tentative political experiment. Washington undertook a tour of the ex-colonies to talk to ordinary citizens about his new government, and to imbue in them the idea of being one thing—Americans.

In the fall of 2018, Nathaniel Philbrick embarked on his own journey into what Washington called “the infant woody country” to see for himself what America had become in the 229 years since. Writing in a thoughtful first person about his own adventures with his wife, Melissa, and their dog, Dora, Philbrick follows Washington’s presidential excursions: from Mount Vernon to the new capital in New York; a monthlong tour of Connecticut, Massachusetts, New Hampshire, and Rhode Island; a venture onto Long Island and eventually across Georgia, South Carolina, and North Carolina. The narrative moves smoothly between the eighteenth and twenty-first centuries as we see the country through both Washington’s and Philbrick’s eyes

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0:00.0

This is CBSI in the world. I'm John Bats with Nathaniel Filber, who tells a whale of a tale

0:10.5

that travels with George and search of Washington in his legacy. This is the first term of two

0:16.0

terms for George Washington, and he travels to meet people. He travels to meet common

0:21.5

people and to demonstrate the power of the presidency and also to learn the nation that

0:27.3

he now rules in some fashion. In some fashion, it wasn't clear how it's to be done, but

0:33.1

there's a trip that he takes to Long Island. And he goes to Long Island places we all

0:39.2

know, Cold Spring Harbor, a Rosalind. These are stops along the Long Island railway, but

0:46.5

this is an important serendipitous trip for George Washington because in a place called

0:52.3

C. Talkit, a Long Island sound were men who participated as spies in the revolution, and

1:01.0

they were not revealed at the time. Why not, Nat? Well, they weren't revealed as spies.

1:06.9

Not even their family members knew because if this experiment in a republic should fail,

1:13.3

and Great Britain should come back in charge of her former colonies, it would not be a

1:19.8

good thing to be known as a spy against the British crown. And so their role as spies

1:28.7

was kept an absolute secret only Washington and Benjamin Talmudch, his spy chief, were

1:34.0

probably the only people who knew their identities. And it wouldn't be until the 20th century

1:41.0

that a historian would reveal those identities for the first time their family and members

1:45.9

would have no idea of the role they took in trying to win America its independence. And so

1:51.7

Washington seems to have decided in April of 1790 to head on a four day trip to Western Long Island.

2:01.0

There's actually no mention of this trip in the newspapers. I mean, it's a press blackout.

2:06.9

I mean, it's unimaginable. Why? Because all the other trips are trumpeted in the press. It's

2:14.0

the evidence seems clear judging on where he goes. He is quietly as possible going to the residences

2:21.7

of participants in what was known as the culpris firing and thanking them whether it's with just

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