I think that people should get on before they lose it to this.

Otherwise I don't know if I can vouch for anything that happens during the show.

I don't really have a sense of that.

But I want people to really feel free to be more and more open not just about the

fact that they get high but about who they are when they are high and that there's

nothing to be ashamed about these different ways that you can invite

your mind to be or your mind to be in relationship with a world or to see the world.

I think that that, at least for me, has also been a line that I'm often like, oh, if I'm writing, I have to be, not high.

You know, lately I've been giving myself permission especially when writing fiction to get high enough

to let my mind wander outside the boundaries of the current constructs and I find that to be very

rewarding and so then I'm like oh what happens if I do that when I'm

thinking about non-fiction concepts as well and I still haven't got to the place

where I can really write those very well when I'm high but I can definitely do

extended thinking in that space.

All right, so this is Adrian, and I am, um, hi.

So I'm setting up some things and we'll see if I'm actually able to pull off what I want to set up before I get too high to do that. So my dream is that I have Planet Earth 2 just visually on in the background because that's one of the things I love and on a

different device that I have Beyonces, Beyonce's Coachella performance.

Put your hands together like this.

So that I'm just sort of sitting behind,

sitting between two kinds of excellence as I move through this conversation

slash basically an interview.

Adrian Genjo and I have some questions for you, and we're going to ask them one at a time.

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