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Optimal Living Daily - Personal Development and Self-Improvement

3983: Finding Groundedness in the Age of Anxiety by Leo Babauta of Zen Habits on Managing Anxiety

Optimal Living Daily - Personal Development and Self-Improvement

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Health & Fitness, Mental Health, Education, Self-improvement

4.63.2K Ratings

🗓️ 17 April 2026

⏱️ 11 minutes

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Summary

Discover all of the podcasts in our network, search for specific episodes, get the Optimal Living Daily workbook, and learn more at: OLDPodcast.com. Episode 3983: Leo Babauta examines how constant uncertainty fuels anxiety and explains that the solution isn’t control, but building grounded resilience. By learning to sit with discomfort, simplify focus, and practice self-compassion, we can stay steady and even find meaning in uncertain moments. These small daily habits transform anxiety into an opportunity for calm and clarity. Read along with the original article(s) here: https://zenhabits.net/anxiety/ Quotes to ponder: "When we’re feeling uncertainty, instead of rushing to solve it … or to distracting ourselves or comforting ourselves with food or shopping … we can let ourselves feel the uncertainty." "What if, instead, we learned that this groundless, uncertain feeling is actually just fine?" "Resilience is feeling grounded in the middle of chaos (even if there’s stress present), and finding a joy in being in that uncertainty." Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

When was the last time you stopped and listened to your body?

0:03.4

Here's a Holland and Barrett ad break to do just that.

0:06.9

Go on. Have a listen to your gut.

0:10.4

Is that a gurgle?

0:12.4

A rumble?

0:14.1

Is it straining after lunch?

0:16.7

Or is it saying...

0:18.4

You've got to show me love.

0:22.0

We know what your body's asking for.

0:25.2

In store online on the app.

0:27.7

Back your body, Holland and Barrett.

0:30.6

This is Optimal Living Daily.

0:32.9

Finding groundedness in the age of anxiety.

0:36.4

By Leo Babouda of Zenhabits.net. And I'm Justin Mollick.

0:40.2

Happy Friday if you're listening in real time and welcome to the podcast where I read to you

0:44.5

covering personal growth and self-help topics like mindfulness, minimalism, happiness,

0:51.0

self-care, and more. And we get right to our next article as we optimize your life.

0:59.9

Finding Groundedness in the Age of Anxiety by Leo Babouda of Zen Habits.comnet.

1:07.2

We live in uncertain times. Actually, things have always felt uncertain to the people who live in those times,

1:13.7

but these days it might feel even more heightened with the hyper-connectivity of the internet,

1:19.3

social media, and constant messaging, comparing ourselves to everyone else, and a very tense,

1:25.2

divisive political situation, not just in the U.S., but in many countries.

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