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The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast

398. Dr. Jordan Peterson Speaks to a U.S. Hostage Negotiator | Ambassador Robert O'Brien

The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast

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4.634.5K Ratings

🗓️ 20 November 2023

⏱️ 104 minutes

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Summary

Dr. Jordan B Peterson sits down with attorney, ambassador, and 27th U.S. Security Advisor, Robert O’Brien. They discuss the inner workings of international hostage negotiations, the ongoing success and legacy of the Abraham Accords, the Russia/Ukraine war, and the current perception of American strength, leaving much room for improvement. Robert O’Brien is an American attorney, ambassador, and was the 27th United States Security Advisor (4th to be hired under Donald Trump). O’Brien was a founding partner of the LA based boutique law firm Larson O’Brien LLP, and has worked in various legal and campaign roles for politicians such as Mitt Romney, Scott Walker, George W. Bush, and Donald Trump. He has also served as an Ambassador to various countries like Israel and Taiwan during incredibly uneasy moments in recent history, including work on the Abraham Accords. In this field, he has also negotiated successfully to free Americans held captive abroad. - Links - For Ambassador Robert O’Brien On X https://twitter.com/robertcobrien?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor American Global Strategies (Website) https://americanglobalstrategies.com/

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0:00.0

The Hello everyone watching and listening.

0:17.0

Today I have the pleasure of speaking with Ambassador Robert O'Brien.

0:22.0

We discuss the inner workings of international hostage negotiations,

0:27.0

the ongoing success and legacy of the Abraham Accords negotiated under President Trump, the Russia-Ukraine war and its complexities, and the

0:37.7

current perception of diminished American strength, a situation which leaves much room for improvement.

0:46.2

So, Ambassador O'Brien, you were the fourth US security advisor under Donald Trump.

0:53.0

So why were you the fourth and what was it like taking on the job knowing you were the fourth and what was it like working with Trump?

1:04.8

And he's a mystery to many people.

1:06.8

Maybe he's a mystery to himself, who knows?

1:09.4

But you stepped into a role that had obviously been contentious and so there must have been some apprehension in that regard.

1:18.0

Why did you do it and what was that like?

1:21.0

Well, thanks Jordan, great to be with you.

1:23.0

You know, I was the fourth.

1:25.0

General Flynn was there for a brief period of time,

1:27.0

and the general of the master and John Bolton.

1:29.0

It's not a job I expected to receive, but I was serving as the president's hostage envoy at the time.

1:35.0

I'm trying to bring Americans home from detention or wrongful detention or being held hostage by terrorist organizations.

1:42.0

And I didn't really know the president.

1:43.7

I'd been with another candidate in 2016, Scott Walker,

1:46.6

the governor of Wisconsin.

1:48.8

And but I supported the president

1:51.0

in the general election, of course,

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