Welcome back to the Vosbebade Podcast. All right, I've been a guest on quite a few podcasts and I have never ever had the response from a podcast that I had from this one that I'm sharing with you. So we've had James Wenmore on this

podcast quite a few times. I'm sure you've listened to some of his episodes. He actually invited me onto his

podcast and to say we went deep is an understatement. We actually get into my entire story and really go deep on the Boss Babe transition that happened a couple years ago when Danielle stepped out.

So we go deep and it was in a way I've not really spoken about before. It wasn't planned.

It was really, he said, can we just go where this goes? I was like, sure, and we just went there. And I'm glad we did because I really do feel like a strong message came out of it. And if I can help anyone to shortcut what I went through, I would

love to do that. So as I was speaking, that's really what I had in my mind is, let me be as completely

honest as I can, because if I can help someone else shortcut

that and not have to go through that or not have to arrive at a destination and wonder

what on earth they did, then that would be success to me.

So that's what we did.

So this episode initially aired on James's podcast and then I asked him if I could put it here too

because I really wanted all of you to be able to hear it.

And there's quite a few themes that we go into. I will say there is a trigger warning around traumatic birth.

So if that's a trigger for you, this might not be the best episode. We don't go into a lot of detail, but I know for some people it could make you uncomfortable. We go into postpart of depression and yeah some themes that we talk about is just

when you've been on this magic carpet ride of more without really stopping to ask yourself, when is enough enough?

Like, do I have everything I need?

Okay, why am I still chasing like I don't?

And for me, I just didn't ever take that pause. It was not like I was always chasing more because I wanted more because

quite honestly that's not really me and my personality. It was that I just didn't stop to ask myself that question. I didn't stop to pause. My entire life had been go go go go. I was so used to being on the go that it just felt like I had to keep going.

There was a destination to get to.

You know, I was just playing this game of business and seeing how big we could grow and

how many lives we could impact and what my maximum

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