Hi, I'm Helen and I'm Sarah and this is the Squiggly Careers podcast, a weekly show where we talk about the ins outs, ups and downs of work and give you some support, some ideas and just maybe a bit of empathy to help you succeed in your squiggly career.

And if it's the first time that you have listened, you have quite a few

episodes to go. But actually, if you're a bit worried and you don't know where to start, head to our

website, which is amazing if.com. You can search for the topic that matters to you most right now in a

search bar and it will come up with all the episodes and things that we have done, which will help

you. And each of our episodes as well comes with a bit of extra support. So we've got pod sheets.

So that's a one page downloadable template, which has got questions and all the ideas for actions that we share.

And there's also Pod Plus, which is a weekly conversation with either Sarah or myself.

It's free. It's every Thursday.

There is a lovely community there on Zoom that you can learn with too. And we just dive a bit deeper into in the topic we talk about so you can learn from some

other people and you can put the ideas into action that little bit more easily. So that is all

there for you. You'll see the links for that in the show notes and if you ever can't find anything,

just email us with Helen and Sarah at squiggly careers.com. So today we're talking about how silos

stop you in your job and hold you back in your career.

And this week's topic links really nicely to a new Harvard Business Review article that we've

just got out, if you want to take a read, which is about some experiments that we've been doing

with 15 organisations and more than 7,000 employees all about career progression, or as we like to call it, squiggle and stay.

And so in that article, which is a bit different to some of the ones that we've done before,

we describe some of those experiments, whether they worked or not, every good experiment,

some of them work better than others, employees' experience of those experiments,

and how you as a leader or an organisation could set those

up if there's something that you're interested in. So we'll link to that from the podcast today

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