This is the Bayhmaue podcast with Marty Solomon. I'm as co-host Brent Billings.

Today I'm with L. Grover Frick's and Reed Dent to explore how the

Talmudu conversation might shed new lights on the account of Joseph's

angelic visitation in Matthew 1. That's right. I'm excited no one will be surprised to hear we've got a lot to get to it's all good. Yes. Also very excited to be here talking about some visitations some dreams maybe what could be more wild what kind of

wild friend here lays before her feet lies before her feet oh dear I mean if it's the dreamscape

then it's gonna be real crazy we did title this episode dreams we I isn't that a cranberry song is that that's a band yes it sure is it's podcast. Okay, so the word of the Lord, Matthew one.

Thanks, Peter God.

Yep.

Brent has got little chunks.

Brent has got small sections, apertifs, from each verse.

He's got like a verse and a half-ish that he's going to read and then we're going to say pause and we're going to jump into some questions and we'll see if the Talmud has some

delightful answers perhaps helpful answers for us regarding those questions.

So if you could kick us off, Brent,

at Matthew 1, verse 18, that'd be great.

Okay, and this is coming out of the RSV today.

Now the birth of Jesus Christ took place in this way.

When his mother Miriam had been betrothed

before they came together, she was found to be with child

by the Holy Spirit.

Here's my first question.

If you recall, we're coming at things from this cultural angle,

this historical angle,

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