392: Why Men Are Heard and Women Are Liked, with Lois Frankel and Tom Henschel

Coaching for Leaders

Dave Stachowiak

Management, Careers, Business

4.8 • 1.6K Ratings

🗓️ 28 January 2019

⏱️ 36 minutes

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Summary

Lois Frankel: Nice Girls Don’t Get the Corner Office

Lois Frankel is the President of Corporate Coaching International, a bestselling author, executive coach, and an internationally-recognized expert in the field of leadership development for women. She is the author of the New York Times bestselling books Nice Girls Don’t Get the Corner Office*, Nice Girls Don’t Get Rich*, and Nice Girls Just Don’t Get It*.

Tom Henschel: The Look & Sound of Leadership

Tom Henschel of Essential Communications grooms senior leaders and executive teams. An internationally recognized expert in the field of workplace communications and self-presentation, he has helped thousands of leaders achieve excellence through his work as an executive coach and his top-rated podcast, The Look & Sound of Leadership.

Key Points

You can’t control anyone but yourself.
What women contribute to the workplace is different but equal to what men contribute.
Things are slightly better for women these days, but not by much.
Men must be advocates for women in the workplace.

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0:00.0	Most of us want a workplace that's more equitable and have taken at least some action to create that.
0:05.0	And yet still there's so much complexity and work to be done.
0:10.0	On this episode, Lois Frankel and Tom Henschel both returned to the show to discuss the complexities of gender at work and call each of us to take the next step.
0:20.0	This is Coaching for Leaders, episode 392.
0:23.2	Produced by Innovate Learning, Maximizing Human Potential.
0:28.3	Greetings to you from Orange County, California. This is coaching for leaders and I'm your
0:37.8	host Dave Stahoviac. Leaders aren't born, they're made, and this weekly show gives you access to the practical wisdom that will empower you to become a better leader.
0:49.5	If you've been listening to the show for at least last month or so you may recall hearing an
0:54.5	episode with Dr. Louis Frankel about a month and a half ago titled
0:59.7	Unconscious mistakes women make that sabotage their careers.
1:04.8	Had so much wonderful feedback from that episode, as did Lois, who's back with me again today,
1:11.7	and heard just some wonderful, wonderful comments of how useful so many of the things
1:15.4	Lois mentioned on that episode was.
1:17.7	And I also received a comment from one of our listeners, Bonnie, not the Bonnie I'm married to, a different Bonnie.
1:24.3	And Bonnie wrote in and she said, I have to push back on that last episode, Dave, once again asking
1:31.2	women or other minoritized groups to change their behaviors while never once
1:36.3	asking men or other groups with agency to adapt to a diverse workplace
1:40.8	isn't going to get us there. And I thought that message very insightful.
1:45.0	Bonnie and I went back and forth talked a little bit about it and one of the things I
1:48.5	mentioned to Bonnie is that last episode was by no means the end of the
1:52.2	conversation. In fact, just the beginning and I am glad to
1:56.1	continue the conversation today with two experts that you know if you've been listening to the show.
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