So, Julius, evening of day two in Odessa, the lights are on and you could be forgiven for thinking

there isn't really a problem with power anymore, but we know better than that, don't we?

Because we went to see one of the power substations yesterday completely destroyed and almost certainly not coming back into service anytime soon.

Yeah, absolutely. And, you know, when we got there, I mean, some of the stuff looked like it could still work.

And then you got to the sort of the main transformers and they were all blackened and clearly blown out.

And you got a sense of the scale of what it's like.

You know, you keep having to fix these things with equipment you don't really have available and you patch it together somehow.

And that one had been hit twice.

That was the second time that that particular substation had been hit.

You had to really feel for the workers who were there.

Okay, so the guy in charge of the state generation company D-Tech, the guy in charge of

Odessa, who was showing us around yesterday, basically said we're in a

situation where we've only got about 40% of our substations working. That's in the Odessa region,

and we have to ration power. Now, look, the lights have just come on. I mean, almost perfect

timing. The streetlights have come on. So the buildings still have them, but obviously they're

swapping the circuits, aren't they? Sometimes a place we're in, the lights will just go out, which has happened a couple of times. That's the reality for the Ukrainians, actually, even after the end of the worst of the winter, they don't have power all the time, they don't have heat all the time. No, absolutely. And they're looking at these things. And we talked about this a little bit yesterday, but they're looking at these ideas, like, you know, do we build them underground or how long is this war going to go on for? And this kind of thing. And this is actually a total coincidence, because it's the first time since I've been back this time, that I've seen these streetlights alike. Yeah. say that you that, you know, you would think, well, you don't really need the street

lights you can get by.

But once they go out and the generators kick in and they do, they're all these Chinese

generators everywhere kicking in, the place really takes on a very different atmosphere.

And it's quite a sort of a sad downtrodden feeling that existence

i think we should also mention the fact that it feels reasonably safe in the center of the city

we've had various air raids since we've arrived almost all we've ignored of course because so the

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