I'll drink to that where we get behind the scenes of the beverage business.

I'm Levy Dalton.

I'm Erin Scala and here's our show today. Isabelle. Isabel Lejezieron of Natural Wine, the book and also the Raw Wine Fair in London, New York,

and also Berlin.

Hello, how are you?

Yeah, good. I'm really like super happy to be here and

chatting with you today. Great to have you here. Thank you. So you're your

French you grew up in... I grew up, oh my gosh yes I'm 100% French I mean I've been living in London for 20 years

but I was brought up on a farm I was brought up you know my family have a vineyard

We had animals, pigs, you know made jams, we had chickens and all of this and I had to work in the vineyard when I was a kid which is why I decided quite quickly that I didn't want to be working in a vineyard and I ran off to

university, ended up in London for a job and then that was 20 years ago.

What was a family like?

It really was very small, we did everything. It was all hand harvesting until my dad decided actually it was better to have a machine and it was better to sort of go down the route of using pesticides and fringesides and so on.

So you saw it in your own home. Like you saw that change happen.

Yeah. My grandparents, we are like six or seven generation sort of, you know, grape growers in the

coniac region and everybody in my family is involved with farming. My great-granddad

in fact had a horse and cart and a small distilling machine and he went from house to house and just

you know it was distilling so we have one pot still at home and my my dad in I would say in

the 60s started to sort of change the way he was farming.

He really bought into the dream that if he started to use chemicals,

you know, weed killers in the vineyards and he would not have to work so hard, could go on holidays and then started the whole process of, you know, conventional farming, unfortunately.

So that kind of would have happened during your childhood.

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