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391: From Political Prisoner to U.S. Navy Seal. Drago Dzieran. The Pledge To America.

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Management, History, Business

4.831.3K Ratings

🗓️ 21 June 2023

⏱️ 339 minutes

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>Join JOCKO UNDERGROUND<

Retired Navy SEAL Drago Dzieran takes readers behind the scenes of his incredible life, from an impoverished childhood in Communist-controlled Poland to his time as a political prisoner, to his twenty years as a member of the United States military’s most elite fighting force.



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0:00.0

This is Jockel Podcast number 391 with Kerry Helden and me, Jockel Willink. Good evening, Kerry. Good evening.

0:07.6

We moved out just after 0200.

0:11.0

We functioned seamlessly as a unit pushing through the quiet pitch black night toward the compound rising out of the dusty Iraqi streets.

0:19.5

Our orders were to capture or kill the target.

0:23.0

We had confirmation that the terrorist was in the building.

0:27.0

The assault element, including myself, scaled the six-foot concrete fence in perfect silence while the designated security element circled the walled compound to make sure the terrorist escape was impossible.

0:41.5

We hit the ground with barely a rattle.

0:44.5

Within moments, I was shouldered up against the outer wall of a building just inside the fence, a string of men with me.

0:53.0

With practiced movements, I set a breaching charge on the door and on my signal, my security element, and I began to walk back toward the designated space around the corner where the rest of the assault element were already taking cover.

1:08.5

The moment we began to move, however, I realized with a sinking feeling that the reconnaissance images I'd studied earlier hadn't shown the mound of rubble in the same corner between the wall and fence.

1:23.0

Shit.

1:25.0

There was barely enough space left to cover most of the assault element. I wasn't going to fit.

1:32.0

And there was no time to scale the concrete fence and take cover.

1:36.5

It was a split-second decision. I backed myself as far from the door as possible and then dropped to my knees.

1:43.5

I covered my face with my M4 curling up to protect as much of my body as possible.

1:49.0

Based on the careful calculations for safe standoff, I knew I would still be relatively safe as far as the shock wave was concerned.

1:59.0

I learned early on from my previous direct action missions to calculate the safe distance from breaching charges in two ways.

2:06.0

One normally per the manual and one for situations like this for me.

2:14.0

The second calculation was important for times when I may not make it to cover but needed to have an absolute minimum safe distance.

2:23.0

It was a distance from the breaching charge that could cause injury but should not be incapacitating.

2:29.0

I was hoping to never use it.

2:32.0

Once I knew everyone else had cover, I quietly passed the call over the radio.

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