And the biggest thing of all, when, especially with routine plays, anything under 15 yards

if somebody's opening, you don't hit it as an NFL quarterback on a very high level,

then that would worry you.

But just real quick, looking at these young quarterbacks now, you know, look at Caleb

Williams. I don't know. People keep talking about him. Oh, he threw an interception at the end of the game, you know, look at Caleb Williams. I don't know.

People keep talking about him. Oh, he threw an interception at the end of the game. But hell,

he carried the team to get him there.

What's cracking? Welcome to episode 390 of the Jim Rohn podcast. As always, it is awesome to be here. It is awesome to have you here.

What's going on? As we near a milestone episode number 400, I just want to reiterate how much

I love coming here from my original side hustle, where I can stretch out and spend some time

with Legends of the game and chop it up proper. And this week's guest is a perfect example

of that. Straight up, one of my favorite people in the business. And I'm not even being objective

about this. I love this guy. He's a former NFL quarterback and broadcaster who played 15 years

in the league. He's a two-time Super Bowl champ and the MVP of Super Bowl 21, a two-time pro bowler and the 1993 NFL man of the year.

He currently contributes to NBC Sports.

Peacock's college football coverage as a game analyst.

He's also part of the Giants preseason TV broadcasts.

It is the legendary Phil Sims.

Episode number 390 of the Jim Rome podcast, and it's coming at you right now.

Phil, my man, it is absolutely awesome to see you.

I'm going to say it for the record.

I miss you, and most of all, I'm so gratified.

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