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No Stupid Questions

39. Is Everybody Cheating These Days?

No Stupid Questions

Freakonomics Radio + Stitcher

Society & Culture

4.63.7K Ratings

🗓️ 14 September 2025

⏱️ 37 minutes

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Summary

Also, what's better: to learn new skills or go deep on what you're good at? This episode originally aired on February 14, 2021.

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0:00.0

I hope I've made you feel bad, Stephen.

0:05.7

Not very.

0:07.4

I'm Angela Duckworth.

0:08.8

I'm Stephen Dubner.

0:09.8

And you're listening to No Stupid Questions.

0:13.0

Today on the show, is cheating purely a moral decision?

0:17.2

I'd be the guy who, when I was writing in the test.

0:20.6

You would put your elbow, you know that move?

0:22.7

Also, what's better to keep learning new skills or to go deep on what you're good at?

0:28.2

She's just been poaching one pair after the other.

0:36.4

Stephen, I was talking to my daughter Lucy the other day, and I'm very worried because she was telling me that cheating is epidemic right now.

0:49.6

Because of virtual education.

0:51.9

Yeah, students are at home taking their calculus exams.

0:56.2

So I'm wondering, is this something that you have any personal experience with?

1:01.2

Have you ever cheated, for example, on a calculus test or anything else you admit to on the air?

1:07.0

Well, back when I was young man, we couldn't cheat with the online education.

1:11.8

Those newfangled online. It is a topic of interest to me because I have two kids who are both

1:18.8

in college and they've also been talking to me about how everybody's cheating. That's kind of

1:26.1

the way they phrase it. They're like, oh, yeah, everybody's cheating.

1:28.7

Yeah, I guess I do have some thoughts.

1:30.4

I think it was WC. Fields who once said, a thing worth having is a thing worth cheating for.

1:36.1

So we are talking about a primordial act here.

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