Hello, my name is Justin the Clue and I'm here today with Will Sloan and you're listening to

The Important Cinema Club. And today, we are talking about just a topic, filmmaking.

Movies about movies. Is this something that you have any interest in, Will?

Because I don't think we've ever discussed, like, filmmaking in the way that is portrayed on screen in movies.

I suppose I'm interested in it.

There have been certain...

I have in my head over the years had a sort of canon of personal favorite movies about movies.

But after this week, perhaps it's changed a little bit.

Who knows? And I've always been's changed a little bit. Who knows?

And I've always been fascinated as a filmmaker myself. I love to see the way that process is

kind of portrayed on screen because the thing about movies is that they're very long, complicated,

and difficult personally and technically to make. So it's not always exciting to see on

screen. I mean, what you often see in movies about movie making is, you know, like Truffaut's

day for night, the agony and the ecstasy. It's so hard, but at the end of the day, isn't it

glorious? The Dream Factory, Babylon, baby. Yeah. Avatar, right there on screen, right?

Right.

But I also love movies about movie making where it's kind of the nitty gritty that you don't see.

Usually it's not like, oh, we got the take.

Ha ha!

We're a success.

But like, what does it mean to just work in movies all the time? Where do you

find kind of like a victory from that? And what does it mean to make it a job as well? So, you know,

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