387 | Richard Kahlenberg: Class-Based Solutions to America's Housing and Education Problems

The Realignment

Saager Enjeti, Technology, Policy, News, Marshall Kosloff, International Relations, Politics, News Commentary, Public Policy, U.s. Politics, National Security, Economics

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🗓️ 13 July 2023

⏱️ 56 minutes

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Richard D. Kahlenberg, author of Excluded: How Snob Zoning, Nimbyism, and Class Bias Build the Walls We Don't See, joins The Realignment. Richard and Marshall discuss whether race or class is a bigger obstacle to success in America, how RFK's cross-racial coalition inspired Richard's work, how exclusionary zoning and NIMBYism lie at the heart of the housing crisis, and his advocacy for class-based affirmative action after the Supreme Court's abolishment of race-based affirmative action.

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0:00.0	Marshall here, welcome back to the Rare Limit.
0:08.0	Today's episode is with Richard Colenberg, author of Excluded House Knob Zoning, Nimbiism,
0:13.7	and Class Bias build the walls we don't see. We cover a lot in this episode. Richard's focus on Yimbi,
0:20.6	aka Yes in My Backyard, ideas to make housing in good, opportunity-promoting neighborhoods
0:26.2	more affordable and accessible. How the legacy of our RFK's 1968 presidential campaign informs
0:33.0	his views on the potential to vote across racial coalition focused on class, why he favors class-based
0:39.6	affirmative action after the Supreme Court overturned race-based affirmative action last month,
0:44.6	and how education policies shapes all of this from K through 12 up to the higher education level.
0:51.6	A huge thanks to the Foundation for American Innovation for supporting this podcast,
0:55.7	hope you all enjoy this conversation. Richard Colenberg, welcome to the Rare Limit.
1:03.1	Well, thanks so much for having me, Marshall. I want to start towards the beginning of your book,
1:10.5	you point out that a lot of your beliefs on the intersection of racial, class,
1:16.6	interest, potential for new coalitions in this country really stemmed from your early engagement
1:21.7	interest in RFK's campaign, Robert F. Kennedy in 1968. Obviously, listen to where the fact that
1:29.0	RFK Jr. is making his own run for the Democratic nomination right now, but let's just go back to 1968.
1:34.2	Like, why is that race important? What was the promise which obviously did not come about due to his
1:40.2	assassination? Take us from there. Well, thanks for raising that. I wrote my thesis in college about
1:49.0	Bobby Kennedy's 1968 campaign, and honestly, it's informed everything I've written since then.
1:57.2	It was such an exciting moment for the country. You had Bobby Kennedy, who was a strong champion
2:04.2	of civil rights, a strong support among black and Hispanic voters, was in 1968 also able to
2:15.8	appeal to working class whites, who now have gone deeply into the Republican Party, Donald Trump
2:22.9	did better with that population than really any presidential candidate previously.
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