3861: [Part 2] Use Schema Learning to Be More Persuasive by Tyler Tervooren of Riskology on Practical Psychology

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🗓️ 31 December 2025

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Discover all of the podcasts in our network, search for specific episodes, get the Optimal Living Daily workbook, and learn more at: OLDPodcast.com. Episode 3861: Tyler Tervooren reveals how to make your message unforgettable by turning passive listeners into active participants. By tapping into what people already know, prompting them to find their own examples, and challenging them to apply the idea in real life, you create lasting understanding and real persuasion. Read along with the original article(s) here: https://www.riskology.co/schema-learning/ Quotes to ponder: "Everything is difficult until you find a practical application for it." "You can teach almost anyone the basics of anything, but you’ll take your mission further when you give people real problems to solve." "Mastery comes when you can solve problems you didn’t expect." Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:35.4	This is Optimal Living Daily. Use schema learning to be more persuasive part two by Tyler Tivoran of Riskology.com. And I'm Justin Mollick. Welcome to OLD, where I read
0:40.9	articles to you with permission from the authors. But today being a continuation from yesterday,
0:45.9	so I recommend listening to yesterday's episode first. But if you're all caught up, let's get
0:49.6	right to part two and continue optimizing your life.
1:03.2	Use Schema Learning to Be More Persuasive, Part 2 by Tyler Tivoran of Riskology.co.
1:10.1	How to best harness the power of schemas, number two, activate prior knowledge. Schema learning works best when you're not the one
1:13.5	doing the work. For success, make the learner build a connection. To do that, ask lots of questions
1:20.3	that activate their existing knowledge so they can build the mental bridge from one to the other.
1:26.2	This tactic is not just for teaching, though,
1:28.0	it's deadly effective for persuasion. For years, there's been debate raging about global warming
1:34.1	and its effect on the planet. According to basically all established science, it's real, and it's bad.
1:40.5	Yet there's a vocal minority who refuse to accept it and instead try to persuade others to accept
1:46.4	their argument. A good example of this is when U.S. Representative Steve Stockman uses the schema
1:52.0	of ice melting in water to explain why there's no reason to worry about the sea level rising.
1:58.5	The problem, of course, is the schema is wrong. It doesn't reflect
2:02.6	reality. But people who follow Representative Stockman and aren't interested in physics probably won't
2:08.4	catch that. Now, how do you show someone who uses that argument that their science is wrong?
2:13.9	Just explaining it probably won't do the trick. A comedian John Stewart from The Daily Show found an effective way.
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