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3860: [Part 1] Use Schema Learning to Be More Persuasive by Tyler Tervooren of Riskology on Practical Psychology

Optimal Living Daily - Personal Development and Self-Improvement

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Education, Health & Fitness, Mental Health, Self-improvement

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🗓️ 30 December 2025

⏱️ 9 minutes

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Summary

Discover all of the podcasts in our network, search for specific episodes, get the Optimal Living Daily workbook, and learn more at: OLDPodcast.com. Episode 3860: Tyler Tervooren reveals how schema learning can dramatically improve your ability to explain ideas, teach complex topics, and persuade others. Using simple, relatable examples, he demonstrates why this cognitive shortcut is one of the most effective tools for clear communication and lasting influence. Read along with the original article(s) here: https://www.riskology.co/schema-learning/ Quotes to ponder: "The more distinct pieces of knowledge you have, the more opportunities you have to make connections to new ones." "Connection opportunities are what allow you to learn new concepts faster and recall them easier." "When you’re sharing something new with someone, the more potential connections you can make to something they already know, the better shot they’ll have at retaining it." Episode references: Your Money or Your Life by Vicki Robin and Joe Dominguez: https://www.amazon.com/Your-Money-Life-Transforming-Relationship/dp/0143115766 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

This is Optimal Living Daily.

0:03.2

Use schema learning to be more persuasive, part one by Tyler Tivoran of Riskology.com

0:09.4

and I'm Justin Mollick.

0:11.5

Today have a bit of a longer post.

0:13.1

I'm going to read the first half today and then finish the rest for you tomorrow.

0:16.5

So with that, let's get right to part one and start optimizing your life.

0:24.3

Use Scylvan. with that, let's get right to part one and start optimizing your life. Use schema learning to be more persuasive part one by Tyler Tivoran of Riskology.com.

0:32.0

When I go to a baseball game, I can eat six, maybe seven hot dogs. I love hot dogs more than anything on earth.

0:39.5

This is the opening line from Mr. Oregon, my high school economics teacher. We're learning the

0:44.5

law of diminishing returns. He goes on to explain how, though his love for brats runs deeper

0:50.4

than human understanding, he starts to get tired of them after a while.

0:55.1

Sure, each of those first three dogs makes him happier and happier.

0:59.1

Eventually, though, the next one isn't quite as tasty as the last.

1:04.2

After about six hot dogs, Mr. Oregon hardly cares about hot dogs at all.

1:10.0

Admittedly, a strange comparison, also an effective way

1:12.9

to share a complex idea with a bunch of apathetic high schoolers. The law of diminishing returns,

1:18.4

put simply, describes how you can't achieve endless efficiency in any system. More workers on a

1:25.9

construction project won't always make it finish faster.

1:30.2

Speeding up an assembly line won't guarantee you more widgets in an hour. As a 17-year-old student,

1:36.3

I didn't care about construction projects or assembly lines. I didn't care about hot dogs either,

1:41.5

but I was intimately familiar with them.

1:45.0

I knew if I ate too many, I wouldn't like them as much, and Mr. Oregon knew that's all I needed

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