In the private sector, that parent or that athlete chose you in college, they don't get to choose me.

They're not making their recruiting decision on coming to my institution because I'm the strand coach for that sport.

There's so many coaches that write this program.

Did you try that program yet?

No, it's not that hard.

Try it.

You're working with a high school swim team that has zero training age.

Try your program.

How'd you feel the next day? Well, I was a little tight. What do you think they're going to feel like?

All right. It's time to sit down, keep it real, and cut the bullshit. Welcome to Table Talk. All right. So how did you guys meet?

How do we mean? Yeah. Do you want to tell the story? Yeah, no, absolutely. So I was actually

an athlete, a college athlete, and Coach Sleberneggel was my strength conditioning coach.

Yeah.

Um, in college.

And so my, my recruiting visit would have been, I guess the first time that we actually

seen each other met.

I think my freshman year was your second year at University of Mary.

And he was the first strain coach, head strain coach, basically started that department.

Yes.

And so even just from there.

And so then my first interaction would have been my first 5 a.m. lift, first true interaction.

Yes.

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