Hybrid training is not just lifting and running.

Hybrid training is not competing in hybrid races.

There's no such thing as hybrid sport.

A more robust cardiovascular system is going to let you do more quality work over a given session,

and it's going to keep you physically and mentally fresher, longer into your session.

It's time to sit down, keep it real, and cut the bullshit.

Welcome to Table Talk.

All right, guys, we're back with another episode of Table Talk, and today the guest is Alex Viata. Did I say that right? Viata. Viata. But everybody has always said Viata. It doesn't matter because I screw everybody's name. You know what? It's become part of the podcast. So if I ever nail it, then... Something's wrong. Yeah, then something's really wrong.. Best-selling author of the hybrid coach, your coach, international educator, been around forever, the founder, and do everything

for complete athlete performance. Complete human performance. Compete human performance. And you like to

make things simple and the simple complex.

You know, I've been following you forever and all the way actually I'm just going to jump in with the first question because it's I've been just focused on this for like the last hour is you your dad drug you to your first swim meet when you're four.

Yeah.

Right?

Yeah.

And then you pop up on the radar like 20 years later.

Yeah.

Squat in 700 and running with this giant thick headband, which was not cool at the time, but it's cool now.

It is cool, man.

It is cool, man.

Who were you in high school? Like, where did you go from

that? You know what I'm saying? Because I'm always fascinated in athletic development, especially

in the younger years. Yeah, absolutely. There's the developmental phases. And you're being thrown in a pool,

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