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We're not here for perfect. We're here for a little better

every day. Let's go. Hey, you're on air with Ella, and today I am joined by Alison Fergal.

Allison, my new favorite author, would you kindly tell us who you are and what you do?

I will. I'm Allison Fergal. I'm an organizational psychologist. I'm a professor.

I am a women's advocate and I am the author of likable badass. Allison, I hunted you down and

asked you to come on the air with me because I read your book and it's called likable badass.

Now, not everybody has read your book, not everybody, but I sure

hope they will. I read a lot of books for this show. A lot of books for this show. And it is a

privilege and an honor, but not all of them are keepers. Allison, I have not been this excited

about a book since I read and applied Atomic Habits.

And I have probably referenced that book roughly somewhere around a thousand times on this show.

Yours is my new go-to.

This is not just a book.

It's a manual.

I would love for you to tell us what is a likable badass.

For sure.

Well, first I have to pause on that high praise because Atomic Habits has sold, I don't

know, like 17 billion copies.

And yeah, right?

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