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The Talk Show With John Gruber

384: ‘Pleading the Fifth’, With Michael Simmons

The Talk Show With John Gruber

John Gruber

Technology

3.83.6K Ratings

🗓️ 31 August 2023

⏱️ 79 minutes

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Summary

Flexibits co-founder Michael Simmons returns to the show to talk about his experience at Apple’s developer lab for Vision Pro, and his enthusiasm for the future of spatial computing.

Transcript

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0:00.0

Yeah, how you feeling, buddy?

0:01.7

I'm okay.

0:02.6

I'm a little under the weather,

0:03.8

but talking about the Apple Vision Pro

0:05.6

and talking to you gets me out of my cave.

0:09.4

COVID, how long do you think?

0:10.6

I feel like we're probably the rest of our lives

0:13.2

we'll be talking.

0:14.2

Ah, son of a bitch, I got COVID again.

0:17.0

Yeah, well, you know what?

0:18.0

The way I see it is, it's like cold or flu.

0:19.8

It's just, it's here to stay.

0:21.1

We'll get it.

0:21.9

It'll hopefully be not bad

0:23.2

as long as you're vaccinated, boost it

0:24.7

and take care of yourself.

0:25.8

And it'll just be part of life.

0:28.0

Yeah.

0:28.9

It does seem like supposedly, I guess,

0:31.2

the longer time goes on, the more the variants

0:33.9

are optimizing themselves for contagiousness

0:36.9

and less so for being terrible,

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