Well, I'm going to tell you fascists, you may be surprised, people in this world are getting organized.

You're bound to lose.

You fascist found to lose.

So I recently watched the little-known Werner Herzog film, or I should say lesser-known, Werner-Hurtsug film Wings of Hope.

Have you seen that one? You know,

would you believe I have not? That is one of, that is one of the few that I have not seen.

So I'm sorry, I won't have much to contribute. Tell me what it is. You haven't seen this one,

but you've seen like the, have you watched like the Kuwait one where there's, like, no actual voiceover, and it's just kind of like an art film?

Yeah, that's beautiful.

Lessons of Darkness.

I mean, there is some voiceover at the start because he sort of depoliticizes it.

Well, he doesn't depoliticize it, but he changes the politics of it by saying, this is footage from an unknown planet.

And in fact, when that film came out, Lessons of Darkness, many criticized him for aestheticizing the horrors,

which I don't think time has been kind of that judgment.

But anyway, go ahead.

Well, you know, I have to say I actually never got through that one, and I think it was because,

and it's probably the only Werner Herzog film I've ever turned off. I and I think it was because I think it's probably the

only Werner Herzog film I've ever turned off. I mean, mainly it was just I wasn't in the mood

to watch like a fairly sort of plotting art film. But I wasn't in the mood to watch it that night.

What I what can I say? But I do think I did have a little bit of that feeling that he was unhelpfully

depoliticizing a bit. So maybe we can watch that sometime and have another like crossfire style

episode like we did with our recent take on Adam McKay's vice, which, you know, people seem to like

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