383: Why We Care So Much about Transcending & Including Mormonism

Latter Day Struggles

Valerie Hamaker

Health & Fitness, Mental Health, Spirituality, Religion, Religion & Spirituality

4.5 • 859 Ratings

🗓️ 17 November 2025

⏱️ 49 minutes

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Send us a Positive Review! Are you curious about what has happened in the minds and hearts of the Hamakers eight months post-resignation from the LDS church due to the waves that this podcast has made throughout the world for the past couple of years? Well, one thing that happened changed Val's life and is now changing hundreds of Latter Day Struggles Podcast listener's lives too. It all started the day Val opened up a book that became a portal to an entire universe of deep...

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0:00.0	The Latter Day Struggles Black Friday sale is happening November 25th through December 2nd.
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0:35.3	Hey, everybody. Welcome to Latter Day Struggles, your podcast for all things connected to help and wellness here in and around the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.
0:44.3	This is Valerie. Happy to have you all here today.
0:47.1	Happy to have my favorite guy, Nathan Hammerker, right here by my side, to be with me.
0:51.7	Good to be here.
0:52.6	Yeah, we are excited to be here with you and Nathan
0:56.6	actually had an idea. So I'm going to actually let him introduce what we're going to be talking to you
1:02.1	all about today. So we have been in the latter day struggles podcast working recently with a lot of content from an author named Ken Wilbur,
1:14.2	who introduced to Valerie and then by chain of command, introduced to me this idea of
1:23.6	transcendent and include.
1:25.2	And in the past couple weeks, I have been myself trying to go through
1:30.8	and mentally categorize and try to understand a little bit of this growth that the podcast has gone
1:41.9	through, right? Like every living system, it grows and has opportunities for expansion as well.
1:47.8	And I think this has been one of those moments for this podcast.
1:51.7	And I was trying to wrap my brain around what some of these changes or additions might
1:58.0	mean for the podcast.
1:59.8	And as I was doing that, it occurred to me that maybe some of the listeners might
2:04.1	have the same questions in terms of what's the same, what's different, so forth.
2:09.9	So Valerie and I batted around how to approach this, and we decided to come up with a list
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