#383 Josef Witt-Doerring - They Lied To You About Depression & Psychiatric Medication
Real Talk with Zuby
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🗓️ 3 October 2025
⏱️ 102 minutes
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Summary
Zuby is joined by psychiatrist Dr. Josef Witt-Doerring to discuss the modern mental-health crisis. The two trace the history of psychiatric medications, unpack the “chemical imbalance” narrative, and examine how diagnoses and incentives can drive overprescription. Josef explains under-discussed risks like drug-induced psychosis, akathisia, and post-SSRI sexual dysfunction, and why holistic health, community, and personal responsibility matter. They also tackle politics, pharma, and practical solutions.
Timestamps:
(00:00) Introduction
(02:31) Historical Context of Psychiatric Drugs
(05:39) Chemical Imbalance Theory Debunked
(08:56) Diagnosis and Overprescription Issues
(12:10) Cultural and Social Influences on Mental Health
(20:47) Economic Incentives in Psychiatry
(29:48) Challenges in Addressing Root Causes
(34:12) The Oppression Narrative
(34:31) The Permanent Alibi
(35:18) Depression as an Excuse
(36:19) Blaming External Factors
(38:14) The Role of Personal Responsibility
(40:25) Criticism of the Pharmaceutical Industry
(43:44) The Political Divide
(51:16) The Importance of Holistic Health
(58:54) The Risks of Psychiatric Medications
(1:07:16) The Pressure to Avoid Questions
(1:08:10) Understanding Drug-Induced Psychosis
(1:09:51) Akathisia and Emotional Blunting
(1:11:40) The Scandal of Post-SSRI Sexual Dysfunction
(1:15:14) Modern Society's Mental Health Crisis
(1:16:35) The Impact of Social Isolation and Economic Strain
(1:18:51) The Role of Physical Health in Mental Well-being
(1:19:43) The Need for Honest Conversations
(1:20:42) The Importance of Community and Connection
(1:29:42) Challenges of Maintaining Health in the USA
(1:32:15) Potential Solutions and Grassroots Movements
(1:38:01) Innovative Education Models for Health and Entrepreneurship
(1:40:31) Outro
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| 0:00.0 | I am the man sick with the slang, sick and I'm destined for fame, |
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| 0:15.4 | y'all going to remember the name, y'all going to remember the name. |
| 0:18.8 | Welcome back to the Real Talk with Zubi podcast. |
| 0:21.4 | On today's episode, we are going to be having a very important conversation about a very important topic. |
| 0:26.8 | We're going to be talking about mental health. |
| 0:28.4 | We're going to be talking about psychiatric drugs and everything in our society, culture, and medicine around that. |
| 0:34.9 | Today's guest is a board certified psychiatrist. And this is Yosef Witt During. |
| 0:40.5 | Welcome to the show, man. |
| 0:41.4 | Hey, thanks for having me here. |
| 0:42.7 | Happy to have you here, bro. |
| 0:44.9 | First of all, for my listeners who aren't familiar with you, your credentials, and what it is |
| 0:50.1 | that you do, just please introduce yourself. |
| 0:52.3 | I will. |
| 0:52.9 | Yeah, because every time I talk about this, |
| 0:54.4 | they go, there's no way this guy could actually be a mental health professional. And so, |
| 0:58.2 | okay, so I went to medical school and then I did a psychiatry residency. I then did a fellowship |
| 1:03.4 | in psychiatric clinical trials at Johnson, which is the pharmaceutical branch of Johnson and |
| 1:09.1 | Johnson. I then worked at the FDA as a medical |
| 1:12.1 | officer reviewing the safety and effectiveness of psychiatric drugs for the U.S. market. |
| 1:17.7 | And then went to a couple other pharmaceutical companies before ultimately deciding I didn't |
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