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Most Notorious! A True Crime History Podcast

382: The Notorious Nancy Clem & the Cold Spring Murders w/ Wendy Gamber

Most Notorious! A True Crime History Podcast

Erik Rivenes

True Crime, History, Education

4.72.8K Ratings

🗓️ 16 March 2025

⏱️ 78 minutes

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Summary

On September 13, 1868, the bodies of Jacob and Nancy Young were discovered brutally murdered along the bank of the White River in Cold Spring, Indiana. Police would eventually set their sights on a charming and fascinating confidence woman named Nancy Clem, who happened to be involved in some extremely shady business dealings with Jacob Young at the time. My guest is Wendy Gamber, author of "The Notorious Mrs. Clem: Murder and Money in the Gilded Age". She tells us all about the colorful Nancy Clem, the Cold Spring murder case, and shares theories on how and why the murders might have really happened. The author's Indiana University page: https://history.indiana.edu/faculty_staff/faculty/gamber_wendy.html The author's publisher page: https://www.press.jhu.edu/books/authors/wendy-gamber Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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1:31.5

I'm Eric Rivenis.

1:33.5

How are you?

1:34.6

Hope you're well.

1:36.0

I am so very excited to be talking today with Wendy Gamber.

1:40.9

She is the Robert F. Burns Professor in History at Indiana University, Bloomington,

1:47.4

and her research centers on the social and cultural history of the United States. She's written

1:54.1

multiple books, including the boarding house in 19th century America, the female economy, the millinery and dressmaking trades,

2:04.6

and the notorious Mrs. Clem, murder and money in the Gilded Age, which is the focus of today's

2:12.0

interview. And it is a book, by the way, that was selected as an editor's choice by the New York Times

2:17.9

book review.

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