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Most Notorious! A True Crime History Podcast

381: Alabama's Kilpatrick Shooting w/ Lesa Carnes Shaul

Most Notorious! A True Crime History Podcast

Erik Rivenes

True Crime, History, Education

4.72.8K Ratings

🗓️ 8 March 2025

⏱️ 88 minutes

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Summary

Close to midnight on May 17, 1951, four north Alabama lawmen drove to a bootlegger’s home to serve an arrest warrant. Before the clock struck twelve, the bootlegger lay dead in front of the house he shared with his wife and eight children, and three of the four officers were also dead. Afterward, a sixteen-year-old boy would face a series of trials that would divide a county and thrust the state of Alabama into the national spotlight. My guest is Professor Lesa Carnes Shaul, author of "Midnight Cry: A Shooting on Sand Mountain". She grew up on Sand Mountain hearing stories about this sensational shootout and joins me to talk about her research into this fascinating case. More about the author and her book here on her publisher's page: https://ugapress.org/book/9781588385338/midnight-cry/ This episode is sponsored by Strawberry .me. Get a $50 credit when you use our link: https://strawberry.me/notorious Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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I am very happy to have Lisa Carnes shawl with me today. She spent the first 18 years of her life

1:37.9

in a small town atop Sand Mountain in northeastern Alabama. And she is currently a professor of English at the University

1:46.7

of West Alabama, where she specializes in American literature. And she is the author of Midnight Cry,

1:54.9

a shooting on Sand Mountain. So great to have you on the show. Welcome. Thank you, Eric. It's a pleasure to be here.

2:03.1

So you first heard about this tragic event as a child, right?

2:08.9

Yes.

2:09.6

You knew it as the Kilpatrick shooting.

2:12.7

Right. And in the spirit of full disclosure, I'm actually distantly related to the Kilpatrick family.

2:20.3

And it won a book event that I was at, a woman said, honey, everybody on Sand Mountain's

2:24.8

kin to everybody else. So it was kind of a funny reminder of that. But yeah, it was one of,

2:30.9

it was part of kind of the lore of of not only my family but the community at

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