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Welcome to episode 382 of the German podcast, my original side hustle, the place I go to stretch out, go long form, and have the types of conversations that I can never have on our daily program.

You know this, and this is another great example of why this podcast exists, because there's no way our guest could possibly share his story in 10 or 12 minutes. He needs a lot more

real estate because his journey is that wild. He's a former USC football player turned

international drug kingpin. In 2017, he was sentenced to 21 years in federal prison,

but he's out right now, and he's featured in a documentary series on Prime Video called

Cocaine Quarterback, A Signal Caller for the Cartel. He's also the author of the book,

The California Kid, from USC Golden Boy to International Drug Kingpin.

I'm talking about Owen Hansen, and he's got a wild story to tell,

and you're going to hear it right now on episode 382 of the Jim Rome podcast.

Let's do this.

So, Owen, first of all, dude, really good to see you in person, man. How are you living? How are things going? Hey, life's better, right? You're out of that 6x8 prison cell, and you're starting to taste freedom, starting to taste real food for once. Sushi, little mastros, Madeo once in a while. Dude, Mastros, there you go. All right, so all these things. In fact, for those who have not seen the doc, read your book, take me all the way back. Like, to the very beginning, where did you grow up and what were you like? You know, I grew up in the South Bay, Redondo Beach, California. It's just a blue-collar family, surfer kid, volleyball player, and later walking on to the USC football team, part in two national championships.

And I tell people my story, you know, I came from this family.

My dad was a construction worker, my mother, a librarian, and I didn't come from money.

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