381. Charlie Lawrence, Des Linden's 50K Pacer
Ali on the Run Show
Ali Feller
4.9 • 3.7K Ratings
🗓️ 3 June 2021
⏱️ 61 minutes
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Summary
“This is a definite compliment from Des. She was like, ‘I like you enough where I can hang out with you for three hours!’”
In April, Des Linden made history by making her ultramarathon debut and, in the process, breaking the world record in the 50K (2:59:54) and becoming the first woman to run a 50K in under three hours. And while Des may hold the new record, she didn't go it alone: She was joined by Charlie Lawrence. Charlie ran at the University of Minnesota, and made his marathon debut at the California International Marathon in 2018, where he ran a 2:16 and earned himself an Olympic Trials qualifying time. On this episode, Charlie talks about what it was like pacing Des that day in Oregon, including what their pre-race conversation was like, what he remembers most from the race, and what he thought about his first "Shoey." And go give Charlie some love: He'll be racing the 50K road championships next weekend!
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What you’ll get on this episode:
- How Charlie got the job as Des’s pacer (4:20)
- How Des and Charlie met (7:45)
- What 2021 was looking like for Charlie on the run (9:50)
- How Charlie trained and prepared for the 50K (13:30)
- What Des and Charlie’s pre-race talk was like (17:30)
- What the race was like (27:30)
- Highlights from race day (32:40)
- What the finish line and post-race celebrations were like (36:15)
- What’s next for Charlie? (43:20)
- Is this the life Young Charlie imagined? (47:55)
What we mention on this episode:
Des Linden on Episode 363 of the Ali on the Run Show
Calum Neff on Episode 318 of the Ali on the Run Show
The CIM Pacers on Episode 196 of the Ali on the Run Show
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| 0:00.0 | This episode of The Alley on the Run Show is brought to you by Aftershocks. |
| 0:04.0 | Go to ontherun.aftershocks.com to save 15% on all wireless headphones. |
| 0:10.5 | Welcome to The Alley on the Run Show. |
| 0:16.9 | I'm your host, Allie Feller, and every week I talk with people who are doing exciting things |
| 0:22.0 | on the run and beyond. We all share that love for running, and that's what brings us all together. |
| 0:27.6 | But of course, there is more of the life than what happens on The Run itself, |
| 0:31.4 | and this show is about the in-betweens. The water stops, the bathroom breaks, |
| 0:36.4 | the long walks uphill, the moments and decisions that have shaped who we are today, and the wise. |
| 0:42.4 | Why do we do what we do, and how does getting sweaty factor in? |
| 0:46.9 | Now back in April, you may recall, Des Lyndon made her ultra marathon debut, |
| 0:52.7 | running a 50k and running a world record time in the process. Des ran that 50k in two hours, |
| 1:00.1 | 59 minutes, and 54 seconds, beating the previous record by more than seven minutes, |
| 1:06.1 | and becoming the first woman to run a 50k in less than three hours. That is a five minute, |
| 1:12.8 | 47 second per mile pace. And she didn't go it alone. Des was joined by a pace or that day, |
| 1:19.9 | Charlie Lawrence, and Charlie's here today. If you want to hear Des's side of the 50k story, |
| 1:26.2 | go back and check out episode 363 of The Alley on the Run Show. We recorded that one 24 hours |
| 1:33.7 | after she ran the 50k, so she was fresh and ready to chat about it. And if you've already listened, |
| 1:40.1 | you may remember Des saying things like, I generally don't like Pacers, and when I asked about |
| 1:45.5 | her pre-race pep talk with Charlie, Des simply said, don't annoy me. So today, we get to hear |
| 1:52.8 | from Charlie himself. He'll share his side of the pep talk, and let's give you a little bit of |
| 1:57.1 | background. Charlie ran in college at the University of Minnesota. He made his marathon debut in 2018 |
| 2:04.4 | at the California International Marathon. He ran a 2-16 that day, earning an Olympic trials qualifying |
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