Hello and welcome to Battleground Ukraine with me Saul David and Julius Strauss.

Well, we're on the night train from Kybe to Leiv, Julius. At the end of a week-long trip,

it's been pretty eventful, hasn't it? We started in Kisinau, in Moldova. Then we went by bus to

Odessa, spent a couple of days there, then moved on by train to Harkiv, and then finally

another train to Kiev itself. What have been the highlights for you so far

gosh it's been a really busy week yeah it seems like a much further much longer

ago that we were in in kishinov kisina. I think Odessa was really interesting this time.

It had changed somewhat.

It's coming out of winter.

In fact, the whole place is coming out of winter, which has been very nice to see because they've

had such a hard winter.

Odessa, we had these really great interviews, and I think we're going to be airing more

of that later on.

But, you know, seeing the centre where they're rehabilitating the soldiers,

seeing some of the drone stuff was very interesting.

And then Kharki was just this contrast.

You know, we went to this terrible place where a Russian missile had landed a day before,

two days before, and killed killed 11 dead now we think

11 dead and you know just half that apartment block missing and then 10 minutes down the road in the car

you had international women's day and everybody's out in the streets all the flowers are out

you know there are men everywhere giving women these flowers.

And you've got this real sense that something that they didn't know about what's happening. It's just that they're determined to live their life regardless. And we got a little bit of that today as well. You know, we went to the zoo, which initially I was like, well, the zoo's a zoo. but actually it's not, of course, because the zoo in wartime is different.

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