Just a quick note before we get started, this week's episode is about Dwight Horn who is still an active duty military member.

His views aren't necessarily representative of the DOD or of its components.

There were dead insurgents as we walked along and as we finally got close all of a sudden I remember a bulless were just flying everywhere.

I personally just felt suffocated in the moment.

When he was a student Dwight Horn felt called and he entered the ministry.

But as a Navy chaplain he volunteered to follow the Marines to whom he was ministering into battle because he felt it was his duty.

Just as Marines don't want to let one another down during the most dangerous physical times, the chaplain couldn't let his Marines down during the crisis of conscience that comes after fighting House to House in a war zone.

They wanted to hear from me that what they were doing was right and for me to be able to express that with firmness with conviction which I truly felt was important for them to be engaged in that battle.

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This is Anthony Russo and this is War.

Dwight Horn found his way into the ministry during college.

From his perspective too many ministers didn't tap into the excitement that can be accessed by people who are utterly convinced of preaching's power to engage and to heal.

He was confident that he could better communicate his own religious experience to congregations in a living way.

After getting his masters and spending a few years preaching he turned his mind to the possibilities that the military offered and not long after he turned 32 years old. Horn decided to pursue a commission as a Navy chaplain.

Once you receive your commissioning you're sent off as a chaplain to chaplain school which is up at Newport, Rhode Island.

Then it's just a matter of taking the civilian ministers and helping them understand the military culture.

We had a gunnery sergeant and to know a gunnery sergeant in Marine Corps, particularly one who has been a drill sergeant.

These guys are the most motivated and hardcore Marines you will find and for them to have to come to chaplain school and try to organize a gaggle of chaplains and help them understand what it is to where uniform, what it is to march, what it is to

show respect. I consider it probably for him to have been his closest tour to hell. He had to endure a lot to get through that process because as chaplains different than probably anywhere else at the time, if you were involved in some training that you just overwhelmed you, just called a training time out and there were lots of chaplains that did that.

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