It's time for episode 379 of the Clockwise Podcasts from Relay FM recorded Wednesday, December 30th, 2020.

Clockwise, Four People, Four we're running out the clock on 2020.

My name is Dan Mooran, and I am joined across the internet by my good friend, my pal, my dungeon buddy, Mr. Micah Sargent.

How are you doing today, Micah?

I'm doing well.

It is nearly 2021, and, you know, one has hopes for the new year.

That's what the one in 2021 is for.

I'm not going to lie.

That was the last time I had to say 2020 in an intro, and I tried to give a little

extra, because I just want to like get it out the door. Just get it out the door. But bringing in

that door, we have our two fantastic guests this week to my left. It is a noted developer and a

podcaster of shows such as Analog and the Ex-Anseltec

podcast and a brand new puppy, proud puppy pop. Casey Liss is here. Hi, Casey. Hello, how's

everyone doing? Doing very well. And in this corner, I mean, to my left, it is. The host of Friends in

Your Ears podcast, also the business unicorn. And everyone's favorite internet pal, it is the one and only

Kathy Campbell. Hello, Kathy.

Hello, Micah, and I guess Dan and, yeah, I guess Casey, too.

But I'm here.

I'm ready.

I like it.

All right, let's get started here.

First topic today comes from me.

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