Marshall here. Welcome back to the Realignment.

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On to today's episode. Speaking with Jennifer Palka, she was the former deputy chief technology

officer of the United States during the Obama administration. And before that, she was the founder

of Code for America, think of the city-year program, but for technologists working at every level

of government. She's the author of Recoding America, Why are government failing in the digital age,

and how we can do better. As reclined called Jennifer's book, one of the best policy books

he's ever read. And given her efforts across the federal and state levels of policy from helping

rescue Obamacare's website in 2013 to helping California fix its buckling unemployment insurance

system during the COVID pandemic in 2020, she knows exactly what she's talking about. There's

obviously a long-running debate about the size and scope of government in the US. And what makes

this episode particularly relevant is that even if you have individual thoughts about how we need

more government programs or less government programs, there are still just always going to be

specific government mandates and tasks that need to be accomplished. And given that perspective and

given the challenges of the 2020s, and everything from infrastructure to global threats and

last one of events, we need to take general critique of how government succeeds and fails

seriously. Huge thank you to the foundation for American Innovation for supporting the

Realignment. Hope you all enjoy the episode.

Jen Palca, welcome to the Realignment. It's great to be here. Thank you. Yeah, it's great to be

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