Hi, welcome back to our series on the art of preaching. This month, we're taking an entire

four weeks to talk to communicators that are actually preaching or teaching on a regular basis.

So we spend an entire month talking to new communicators and now we're going to pop over to

those of us that are speaking consistently and kind of the four things I really think we need

to focus in on. So I'm Havilla Kennington. I'm thrilled that you're here. And today we're going to

talk all about what it looks like to preach like it matters. Now, a lot of us know, yeah,

yeah, I'm preaching like it matters. But there's something about this reality after you've

been doing it for a long time, you lose that

kind of reality of, yeah, I got to get my head back in the game. This is really, really important.

So I really think it's important to understand that there is a difference between a sermon that

makes you feel good and a sermon that you remember months or even years later. I want to talk about why or how

we can really help communicate those type of messages and sermons to those that are listening.

Recently, I was in a church in Brazil and this church has had exponential growth. It went from a small

500-person church to almost 25,000 people in this church in just a couple years.

And when you go into this building, it's hard to put into words what it feels like.

But there are thousands of people everywhere.

And the pastor and his wife that are leading are this young couple that are the most humble

and kind leaders I've been around.

But as I was sitting having lunch with this pastor, through a translator, we were asking the

conversation about how he's leading and what's important to him.

And he said something that I think was really profound. And it caused me

to sit back and think, gosh, I don't know if I even think of life like this or even my messages

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