#377 - "First Kill!" - Palantir, Nuclear War, Bio-Hybrids & AC-130 Bombing | Jesse Hamel

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🗓️ 27 January 2026

⏱️ 163 minutes

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0:33.8	were you able to weigh the gravity of, holy shit, I just wiped the life off the earth?
0:37.9	The first one I remember very distinctly was actually an al-Qaeda commander.
0:41.3	So this is like the same organization that had directly attacked the towers close to here.
0:45.9	You do feel it.
0:46.8	But it was a defense of Americans.
0:49.2	And in my perspective, it was merciful.
0:51.4	Paul talks about this in the New Testament.
0:53.0	Governments have the responsibility to do force and evil to preserve larger good. But it's also true, right? Fast order we are now. We talk a lot about AI because that's the field I'm in. When I was at MIT, which is where I launched my company out of, there's actually some pretty impressive and disturbing things happening. Like it's both machine and human biology.
1:12.4	Biohybrid robot made with living brain and muscle cells and even bestow a sort of memory for
1:18.3	repeated tasks. But let's just be hyper paranoid about enabling a 1984 situation. 100% I think
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1:31.2	They're both a huge,
1:32.1	huge help.
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