#376 - “Disaster!” - Cartel-Tracked CEO on (Legal) Drug 13x More Potent than MORPHINE | Ryan Niddel

Julian Dorey Podcast

Julian Dorey

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4.6 • 909 Ratings

🗓️ 23 January 2026

⏱️ 171 minutes

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SPONSORS: 1) GHOST BED: Get an extra 10% off already-great prices at https://GhostBed.com/julian with promo code JULIAN. JOIN PATREON FOR EARLY UNCENSORED EPISODE RELEASES: https://www.patreon.com/JulianDorey (***TIMESTAMPS in description below) ~ Ryan Niddel is the CEO of Diversified Botanics. He is a egalized dr*g market expert who has spoken out about the 7-OH opioid problem in America. RYAN's LINKS: X: https://x.com/Ryan_Niddel IG: https://www.instagram.com/thegenxgentleman/ COMPANY: https://diversifiedbotanics.com/ FOLLOW JULIAN DOREY INSTAGRAM (Podcast): https://www.instagram.com/juliandoreypodcast/ INSTAGRAM (Personal): https://www.instagram.com/julianddorey/ X: https://twitter.com/julianddorey JULIAN YT CHANNELS - SUBSCRIBE to Julian Dorey Clips YT: https://www.youtube.com/@juliandoreyclips - SUBSCRIBE to Julian Dorey Daily YT: https://www.youtube.com/@JulianDoreyDaily - SUBSCRIBE to Best of JDP: https://www.youtube.com/@bestofJDP ****TIMESTAMPS**** 0:00 – Intro 1:34 – Rocco Vargas, Ryan’s Background, Diversified Botanics, Kratom, FDA, Safety Issues 13:29 – FDA “Safety” Process, DEA Scheduling Threat, $1M Product Destruction, "Wild West" 23:55 – Post-DEA Future, System Failures, FDA Barriers, LLM + Blockchain Solutions 34:01 – Supplement Industry Problems, Untested Products, Market Cycles, Post-COVID Dynamics 45:00 – Why Kratom Isn’t an Opioid Replacement 55:48 – 7-OH Potency, Addiction Risk, Bioavailability, Kratom vs 7-OH Confusion 01:05:16 – Trade Shows, Smoke Shops, Mass Market Access, FDA Classification Issues 01:14:42 – Ethics, FDA Failures, Regulation Gaps, Lawsuits, Bioavailability Interactions 01:25:06 – Blockchain Validation, Transparency, COA Verification 01:39:08 – Ledger Systems, Simulation Theory 01:45:34 – 7-OH Regulation Debate, Prohibition vs Control, Opium Epidemic Parallels 01:52:57 – Potency Arms Race, Best Friend’s Overdose 02:01:38 – Addiction Crisis, FDA/HHS, RFK Talks, Cartel Surveillance 02:10:14 – CCP, Cartels, Russians, Money Laundering Networks 02:21:34 – Corruption, Global Networks, Acceptance of Risk w/ Cartels & China 02:35:37 – Future Model, Research Studies, NSF Approval, Market Structure 02:47:52 – Ryan's Work CREDITS: - Host, Editor & Producer: Julian Dorey - COO, Producer & Editor: Alessi Allaman - https://www.youtube.com/@UCyLKzv5fKxGmVQg3cMJJzyQ - In-Studio Producer: Joey Deef - https://www.instagram.com/joeydeef/ Julian Dorey Podcast Episode 376 - Ryan Niddel Music by Artlist.io Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0	Olivia Culpo here to tell you all about the launch of the new Abercrombie spring denim collection,
0:05.5	made the way denim should feel. Their denim has always been a staple in my wardrobe and has a wide range of fits,
0:11.4	styles, and washes. Every jean is available in both their classic fit and viral curve love.
0:17.5	Shop in the app, online, and in stores.
0:30.3	There's a lot of f*** up stuff that goes on to the world.
0:32.7	From the first time I went to D.C., one of the people says, I think you're being followed.
0:33.6	What are you talking about?
0:34.4	Nobody's following me.
0:37.4	The lobbyist team calls me and says, no, we know you're being followed.
0:38.5	We can't have a sense of who it is.
0:51.4	We were taking pictures, running through some intelligence, and it's the synalone cartel. Following you? Yes. You mean to tell me that cartel's involved in this somehow? I'm out and about in the world. I see an individual. An individual walks past me and says, have fun in D.C. tomorrow. I don't think you should go.
0:53.3	Now, no one knows I'm going to D.C.
0:54.7	But what has ended up happening is,
1:30.3	when you have an industry that went from zero to nine billion dollars in 18 months, and you have this that you're not going to overdose on, it's hyper addictive. You've now built a customer for life. Anytime you have a chance to impact people's pocket books significantly, some people might not want that to happen. Like, I didn't sign off for all this shit. Because what we built is way bigger than something that's just about creative, the transparency. I just chose the hardest entering the world to do it. Originally thinking it was just a cartel, just a single-in-caratel. Just. When you start to look at it, Hey guys, if you're not following me on Spotify, please hit that follow button and leave a five-star review. They're both a huge, huge help. Thank you. You know it's real when Rocco Vargas is like,
1:45.4	yo, you got to talk to this guy.
1:47.0	Yeah, something else, bro.
1:48.8	Yeah, that's Rocco.
1:51.5	How long have you known him?
1:53.2	Gosh, I've known Rocco now.
1:55.1	It would have been 20, 2019, 2018.
1:58.8	How'd you mean him?
1:59.7	So at an event in Park City, Utah, it was for the launch of, you know, I think what, Article 15 range when he had the movie production. He's had a lot of things. It's a long list. So many things. Yeah. So met him at this really intimate little, little setting during Sundance of all all things a bunch of cool guys didn't
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