Let's go.

Welcome to Citizen.

We got a special guest today.

Is it Doug or Douglas?

I don't know, you know, Doug.

Let's go Doug.

I like the brevity too.

Doug Brunt.

Nice to, nice to see you. How you doing today? Great. Great to be here. Thanks for having me on. Absolutely. So you write,

you do things like that really interests me. Historical fiction is something that really

interests me. Like, I something that really interests me.

Like I guess some of the best example, well, probably the best example is man in the high castle, right?

Is there a bigger historical fiction book than that?

That is a great one. That sort of hinge in history where they sort of go to the alternate outcome is great.

Those are a lot of fun. Yeah, I don't know.

Is there a better one from your opinion? Because you're in the industry. So obviously, you're going to have an opinion on this. You don't have to take a hard position and make any of your friends matter or anything. I'm just curious. Elliot Ackerman wrote a great. So my book is nonfiction as opposed to historical fiction. So it's a little different in that way.

But Elliot Ackerman wrote a book, kind of like the Philip Dick novel. You're talking about a man in Highcastle that's made into a TV show. And his sort of took off from the Civil War. I'm blanking on Calcium, I think, was the the name of it. And Elliot Asman's a terrific writer generally.

He's actually done fiction. I'm nonfiction, but that's a fictional, you know, historical fiction

seem kind of alternate outcome set up. I don't know why I say historical fiction. I meant

history and nonfiction or two of my favorite subjects. Anyways, so you've written fiction books as well, right?

That's, yeah. First three books were all novels. And then I wrote a nonfiction book about

Rudolph Diesel, who invented the diesel engine and disappeared right before World War I when

...