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#374 Your RPE is a LIE. Here's How to Find Your TRUE Max Effort | Ben Pauli

Dave Tate's Table Talk

Dave Tate

Fitness, Health & Fitness

4.9586 Ratings

🗓️ 14 October 2025

⏱️ 166 minutes

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We welcome Ben Pauli to this episode of Dave Tate's Table Talk Podcast!

As the Athletic Director of Rochester Performance Gym (RPG), co-founder of Coaching Revolution, and owner of Michigan BarBenders Barbell, Ben brings a unique blend of Conjugate methodology and data-driven auto-regulation to the strength world. A seasoned multi-ply powerlifter with best lifts of 1,107 lb squat, 810 lb bench, and 810 lb deadlift, his "strain as a skill" philosophy reflects a mindset built on grit, adaptability, and precision. From first-time lifters to UFC contenders, Ben's ability to develop resilient, high-performing athletes has cemented his reputation as one of the most respected coaches in modern strength training.

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0:00.0

It was every worst nightmare that a lifter could have.

0:03.0

It ended up being double staff infection in each side of my quads.

0:07.0

She's like, you have to take this now, and then if swelling doesn't go at least down a little bit in 12 hours, you've got to go to the ER.

0:12.0

The sport is always going to trump the strength conditioning.

0:14.0

The strength conditioning should aid in the sport development. It's time to sit down, keep it real and cut the bullshit.

0:29.6

Welcome to Table Talk.

0:31.6

Ben Polly, back on the podcast.

0:34.6

You've been on episodes 207 and 281. Number three, baby. Yep. So what we were going to talk

0:41.1

about today was training, you know, some of the programs that you have, the differences amongst clients

0:47.4

and so forth. But before we jump into that, I want to, I want to know how your last meet went.

0:53.2

Oh, God. I was hoping we're going to talk about this. I have to, right? So this? Well, the, we're going to, let's do this in two sections. The actual meat and then the training for the meat. Okay. Because there's a distinction, right? This was the biggest distinction I've ever had. Yes. And I think people need to understand that though. You know, you can have a crappy meat, but the training phase, the training cycle, was

1:16.0

really, really good.

1:17.0

Yep.

1:18.0

And vice versa.

1:19.0

You can have, usually at worst.

1:20.0

You can have crappy.

1:21.0

Yeah, the worst training cycle of your life, all we are.

1:24.0

And a good me, but sometimes people base their next training phase or the next

1:29.9

macro cycle even on how the meat went. Yep. And completely disregard how everything getting into the

1:37.9

meat could have been right words. Yeah, or have the greatest training cycle their life, do horrible

1:42.6

up to meet and then change everything up when they didn't need to.

1:44.8

Yes.

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