Next thing you're gonna say oh, I still use PHP or oh, I still use objective C

Oh God, let me tell you about PHP. Oh my God

Actually all kidding aside. I wasn't planning on talking about that tonight

But since I slice you have brought it up

I'm genuinely curious what what the issue is and the problem is I don't know enough PHP to really be able to

Contribute it to the conversation save it for the show

The show get on board buckle up John. Oh my goodness. We're not following the format John

Yeah buckle up now

So what is the issue with with modern PHP and somebody I don't remember who was but somebody had had conjectured

You know, maybe it's for better testing or something which could be but again

I don't really know enough about what you're seeing or what I'm talking about when it comes to PHP

So be able to pass judgment

But what what is good PHP to Marco and what makes modern PHP not good?

When PHP first was a thing like in the I mean I think it came out in the late 90s

I remember first seeing it becoming a thing

Early 2000s was like really like when it really got going and it became very popular and it got a immediate

very bad reputation

And and part of that was well-deserved

You know, there's that wonderful website that somebody wrote that says like PHP is a fractal of bad design

And it goes through a million different things about why it and and yeah

PHP was like a kind of cobbled together mess of multiple different styles of things that from a very long time ago by

You know, not the most language nerdy of people

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