They're going to say that the woke right is a reaction to the woke left.

We've seen this.

You have all these young men in particular, they've been proverbially kicked in the teeth

for the last number of years as it relates to race and jobs and how their theology operates and all the rest.

And people are going to say, it's just a reaction.

They're reacting to this concept. And in one sense, I see what people are saying, say it's just a reaction. They're reacting to this concept.

And in one sense, I see what people are saying, but here's what I want us to see.

The woke right is not actually a reaction against the woke left.

It's actually the continuation of the same ideological project,

repackaging it in conservative language to infiltrate and

ultimately destroy right-leaning institutions from within.

Hey friends, welcome to the show. Today's episode is all about the confusing topic of Christian

nationalism. If you haven't noticed, there are many different definitions, there are different

factions, there are different ways it's applied, the different ways that it's

talked about. We're going to cover all of it today with my expert guest, Dr. William Roach, or as you

may see him online, Dr. Bill Roach, who serves as the dean of the Norman L. Geisler School of Apologetics

at Veritas International University. He's an author, an editor, a lecturer

who specializes in philosophical theology and classical apologetics. He has recently done

a deep dive into this topic of Christian nationalism. He's authored so many books and scholarly

articles in the fields of Christian apologetics and philosophical theology

and also in evangelical doctrine. And in our conversation today, we covered topics like the

definition problem, the problem that this phrase Christian nationalism is defined in various ways.

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