#370 Reacting to Progressive and Deconstruction TikToks | Monique Duson & Phoenix Hayes
The Alisa Childers Podcast
Alisa Childers
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🗓️ 19 April 2026
⏱️ 65 minutes
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Monique Duson and Phoenix Hayes join the show for a wild ride through progressive and deconstruction TikTok. We react in real time to viral takes, hot-button theology, deconstruction trends, and the internet’s most confident bad arguments.
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| 0:00.0 | Hey friends, I'm Elisa Childers. This is the Elisa Childers, where our goal is to equip Christians to identify the core beliefs of historic Christianity, discern its counterfeits, and proclaim the gospel with clarity, kindness, and truth. And we're doing that today with a couple of my good friends, Monique Dusan and Phoenix Hayes. |
| 0:25.4 | And we are going to be responding or better reacting to progressive TikToks. |
| 0:31.5 | And this is something that was last minute. |
| 0:34.7 | We were all together at my house and we were like, let's just do this. So we didn't |
| 0:39.1 | prepare a whole lot, but what we wanted to do was model what it looks like for just regular |
| 0:44.6 | Christians with Bibles to think through some of the insane claims that we see come across our |
| 0:51.3 | social media newsfeed. So I want to tell you a little bit about each |
| 0:54.5 | guest and then we'll get into the conversation. So my first guest is Monique Dusan, who has been on |
| 0:59.8 | the podcast before. Actually, they've both been on the podcast before, but Monique is the president of the |
| 1:04.1 | Center for Biblical Unity, which is an amazing leading Christian voice on things like justice issues, race issues, pushing back on the |
| 1:14.1 | wokeness or the critical theories that are kind of eking into the church. And you can visit |
| 1:20.8 | her website at Center for Biblical Unity.com. And then Phoenix runs and has founded a new ministry to come alongside youth pastors. |
| 1:30.0 | This is the coolest thing. It's called Neon. And you can go to that website at neonfaith.com. |
| 1:36.0 | And ultimately, her goal with this ministry is to come alongside youth pastors and ministry leaders |
| 1:41.2 | with resources and encouragement, to help clarify some of the |
| 1:45.9 | confusion, acknowledging that a lot of students are engaging with a lot of the material that is |
| 1:51.4 | very much like the material we're going to be responding to today. And then equipping the next |
| 1:56.6 | generation of students to be able to be bold with what they believe and to be clear and confident |
| 2:02.5 | in their faith. But before we get to that, I want to let you know today's episode is brought to you |
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| 2:19.4 | that I think are going to be really important and valuable and equipping for you. And so be |
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