Hello and welcome once again to the cinnophiles where this week we are not diving into a single great film,

but instead exploring a theme that I think

has been central to filmmaking and storytelling

for thousands of years.

My name is Steve Morris.

I'm a filmmaker and directing instructor in Los Angeles, California.

Hello, my name is John Roca. I'm a writer producer and host here in San Diego, California.

And former Catholic, I guess I would say but lover of religious film so I'm

excited to have this conversation in lieu of our initial thoughts which was part one of the last temptation of the of Christ

which is coming next week. Well that's right and this is you know we initially we were the

month of a filmmaker and then it became the season of a filmmaker and I think in this case with three films no four films for Martin Scorsese

we are truly a full season yeah and it was a lot to deal with and we kind of went as we were talking about last

temptation of Christ off the mic the subject of just religious films in general came

up and it was your idea like what if we devote a whole episode to just discussing this theme?

And I'm so excited about the idea.

And I think it's something maybe we'll do more in the future because it gives you sort of an opportunity to step back a bit and kind of look at not just

great films that we love, but also the more I thought about it, the more I went, man,

religious and religious ideas to share one other thing

those things have a deep deep connection to all sorts of films even films that don't seem quite religious and I wanted to share one other thing which is

One of the reasons I've sort of been rearranging some

pieces of my life is that there is a project I've started working on that is

fundamentally about religion and this is as everyone who listens to the show probably knows, I'm an atheist,

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