You think it's going to pay off one day, but what if you just stop thinking that and only focus on the stuff that was profitable?

You wouldn't be feeling like you're failing.

So I texted Tyler yesterday and I said, hey, I think we need to pause on recording this week, which may or may not been the first time I've done that.

And I said, I want to hop on a call and I just want to chat and I want to chat about what

we're doing with the podcast. We've been doing this over eight years. We have been showing up on a

weekly basis for the majority of those eight years.

And frankly, I feel like some of this has gotten stale.

And, you know, Tyler and I have not been really in tune with numbers.

We never really pay attention to how many guys, how many you guys listen.

It's not something that we, we pay a lot of attention to how many guys, how many you guys listen.

It's not something that we, we pay a lot of attention to because we just want to show up and do our thing. But we did get a little sneak peek into what our listenership has been over

the last couple of years. And it made it, it, it kind of brought up a question as to, are we

doing this the right way.

I don't I don't mean the right way by a metric standpoint.

I mean a right way by our standpoint.

You know, we set out to do this to build a community and selfishly have conversations

that would benefit us.

You know, come to the microphone, super curious about our guest, super curious about a topic,

list of questions that we wanted to dig into, you know, begging people to be on the podcast

just so I could get the secret sauce of what they were doing and whether that was for business

or life.

And frankly, i think we've

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