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The Greatness Machine

370 | Scott Donnell | The Hidden Cost of Hustle Culture and How to Build a Family That Lasts

The Greatness Machine

Darius Mirshahzadeh

Education, Entrepreneurship, Business

5.0 • 135 Ratings

🗓️ 23 July 2025

⏱️ 70 minutes

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Summary

What if the hustle isn’t the way forward, but the thing holding you back? In this powerful episode of The Greatness Machine, Scott Donnell, founder of Fig & Eagle, shares his transformation from a high-achieving, hustle-driven entrepreneur to a fully surrendered husband, father, and leader. He and Darius unpack the deeper meaning of faith, family, and legacy, exploring what happens when you stop chasing success and start living with intention. Scott opens up about breaking free from the grip of “mammon”—money, status, and performance—and how that shift has changed everything. This conversation is a call to rethink what truly matters and how we lead the people who matter most. In this episode, Darius and Scott will discuss: (00:00) Introduction to Scott Donnell (02:54) The Importance of Family Time (05:41) Defining Legacy Beyond Wealth (08:47) The Role of Heritage in Family Success (11:26) Understanding the Concept of Legacy (14:12) Building Strong Family Connections (17:28) The Impact of Overachieving on Family Dynamics (20:19) Healing Childhood Wounds and Their Effects (23:13) Spiritual Insights on Wealth and Control (30:44) The Power of Surrender (33:09) Living as a Steward (37:38) Transformative Experiences of Surrender (43:22) Raising Families with Purpose (48:56) Prioritizing Life and Work (54:07) The Legacy We Leave Behind Scott Donnell is a serial entrepreneur and passionate advocate for youth development. He’s the founder of Apex Leadership Co, Hapbee Technologies, and the GravyStack™ banking app, tools that have empowered over 6 million kids nationwide with leadership, fitness, and financial skills. Based in Phoenix with his wife Amy and their four “value creators,” Scott is also the co-author of “Value Creation Kid” and co-host of the Smart Money Parenting podcast. Sponsored by: Constant Contact: Try Constant Contact free for 30 days at constantcontact.com. IDEO U: Enroll today and get 15% off sitewide at ideou.com/greatness.  Indeed: Get a $75 sponsored job credit to boost your job's visibility at Indeed.com/darius. Shopify: Sign up for a $1/month trial period at shopify.com/darius.  Connect with Scott: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/donnell-scott  Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/imscottdonnell/ Twitter: https://x.com/imscottdonnell Connect with Darius: Website: https://therealdarius.com/ Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/dariusmirshahzadeh/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/imthedarius/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@Thegreatnessmachine  Book: The Core Value Equation https://www.amazon.com/Core-Value-Equation-Framework-Limitless/dp/1544506708 Write a review for The Greatness Machine using this link: https://ratethispodcast.com/spreadinggreatness.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

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Start your $1 per month trial at Shopify.com slash Darius. That's Shopify.com slash Darius. IDOU. Unlock your creative edge with online courses from the innovation experts at IDO. Get 15% off sitewide at IDOU.com slash greatness. That's I-D-E-O-U.com slash greatness. Love gang. welcome to The Greatness Machine. I'm your host Darius from Shazda. I'm so pumped to have you here with me. Now listen, the greatness machine were about two things. Number one, people were living their passions. And number two, those who are creating greatness in the world and doing both of these things despite the odds against them. Each episode, we're going to feature interviews with game changers, business leaders, telling us their origin

1:14.7

stories, what made them tick, what got them to where they are now. Why? So it can help you step

1:19.3

into your greatness within your life, your business, and your career. Occasionally, you might hear

1:23.9

a few solo episodes from myself, as I say, as I leverage my 20 years of entrepreneurship as a CEO and founder to help you grow and level up in your journey to scale your life and your business. So, come be a fly on the wall, enjoy the conversation, and I'm stoked to have you hear of me. Guys, welcome today's episode of The Greatness, I'm your host, Darius from Shaw Zay and Poit. We have a special guest. Scott Donald was in the house. What's up, Scott? What's up, man?

1:47.9

This is going to be great. Oh, I'm fired up. Pumped. So glad to have you here, my brother. It's good to be here, man. And every day I wake up on this side of the earth is a good day. that's right baby um so guys uh scott is a, man, entrepreneur, just crushing it in live.

2:04.7

I saw him on John Vroman, two-time former guest on the show on his front row dad's podcast.

2:11.2

And as many things in my life, I don't know what it is about Lewis Houseman, but his podcast is like, it always creeps into my world. I don't actually listen to the show, but I follow it on social. And it's always like, I'm always like just finding cool peeps that I want to, you know, pay more attention to from his show. And Scott's one of those as well. Man, I will tell you that like, it's really interesting what you're doing around, you know, Scott's doing a lot of work and I'm going to get into in a second, but a lot of work around families and raising amazing families, a 10 time entrepreneur. We're talking about the businesses he's built. And really his perspective around, you know, raising a great family. I thought that that was, that was something that really kind of when I saw you on John's

2:51.9

show, it really piqued my interest. I'm a recovering workaholic dad that, you know, had a moment.

3:00.4

We didn't talk about this before the show started. I had a moment in 2019. I was running my company.

3:07.0

Scott, it was a $200 million revenue company. And I was in San Francisco.

3:12.3

And I was at this nice hotel called the Palace Hotel in Union Square. And I don't know what it was, but I had heard a friend of mine in one of my CEO forums. And he said to me, he said, you know, if you want to like, before you set your New Year's resolutions, you should look at your calendar from the previous year and you should see, like, where you spent your time. And that'll kind of give you some indications of like what you did and what you maybe want to change, right? So I was doing it and it was interesting. Like I started doing it and I said,

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