Welcome to the Bigger Pockets Money Podcast, Finance Friday edition, where we interview Chris and talk about FI when you own your own business.

I found out that the real problem there is in sticky garbage cans. It's that old ladies and grandmas don't want to climb ladders.

So that's pretty much what we do is ladder related home minutes for grandmas living in these communities where we do their home minutes so that they ultimately have the opportunity to maintain their independence in the place that they love the most.

And graduated college came back home to grow it. We've as you described hired employees and kind of doubled every year largely since I came back home.

So that kind of put me on the kickstarted me to interpersonal development and find it all about podcasts and your estate and investing.

So you're in today.

Hello, hello, hello, my name is Mindy Jensen and with me as all-wathed is my way to corporate for a startup co-host Scott Tech.

Thanks Mindy, unlike our guest today, I never had to climb the corporate ladder.

No, you quit the worst company to work forever.

Get it because he's got a ladder. Okay.

Oh, no, I missed it. Oh, that's because puns are terrible, Scott.

Scott and I are here to make financial independence less scary, less just for somebody else to introduce you to every money story because we truly believe financial freedom is a table for everyone no matter when or where you're starting.

That's right. Whether you want to retire early and travel the world going to make big time investments and assets like real estate or start your own ladder business.

Mindy, we'll help you reach your financial goals and get money out of the way so you can launch yourself towards those dreams.

Scott, I apologize for missing your amazing pun. You're so great at these amazing puns.

I am excited to talk to Chris today. He has started a really cool business right out of high school.

I think that he shows an enormous amount of initiative and he went to he continued to go to school while running the successful business.

And now is looking towards his financial future to determine when he's done running this business what he wants to do.

He wants to set himself up for financial freedom, but he's not that interested in the early retirement part of financial of a fire, which I think is great because I don't think you should focus on the the retire early part.

I think you should focus on getting enjoyment out of your life, but I did enjoy talking to him. Scott.

Yeah, I thought it was really interesting. I think that.

Look, Chris has a services business and a challenge in the services business for somebody who starts off as a self-employed entrepreneur just themselves, which is what Chris started as, is that when you begin to expand, you inevitably erode your profits, right?

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